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Live ZetaTalk Chat on May 11, 2002

Session Start: Sat May 11 16:51:33 2002
-IQx- Welcome to ZetaTalk - http://www.zetatalk.com - Enjoy Your Stay
(SteveH) yeah, that part was pretty interesting.
(NancyL) Hello all, just send the Agenda to Gerard and Jurian. For you early birds, here it is:
(NancyL) ANTHRAX / SMALL POX
(NancyL) 1. Why have eleven microbiologists died in the past five months? Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
(NancyL) IMPLANTS
(NancyL) 1. Will you ask the Zeta's about implants by humans. This has been an active stock lately and it is said a whole family is to be implanted on TV this week. The stock is adsx. Where did they get the idea from? Will this be used by STS?
(NancyL) CROP CIRCLES
(NancyL) 1. Are cropcircles in the main orbit symbols? or chakra symbols or something else?? Has the Zeta's something to say more about it?
(NancyL) 2. The new Mel Gibson movie, a Px message?
(DraganR) Hi Nancy and the others (Zeta gang)
(NancyL) IQx, you here?
(NancyL) Not away?
(NancyL) Gerard and I were wondering what the URL to the Blake-Radio interview is?
(NancyL) It moved, or maybe no longer hosted there, or whatever.
(Samsara2003) Hi Nancy...any chance the Chilbolton thing is on the Agenda? I've been waiting all week to find this out...
(Matt) Interesting that "Bad moon rising" was talked about as being prophetic in regards to Y2K as well.....
(NancyL) Well, Crop Circles are. What is the Chilbolton thing?
(Samsara2003) The Chilbolton formation - the glyph appearing in the field outside in NH, detailing a face and a response to the radio message
(Matt) The blake radio link hasn't worked for weeks
(BrianC) Why don't they make a good crop circle that shows obviously our solar-system and the tenth planet?
(Zod) Last week we talking about plane and train crashes, and a trained crashed in the uk. Was this due to earth movements I wonder
(NancyL) Oh, that's big time faked. But, good followup question and yes we'll get to it.
(S7L) Brianc: there are some that are remotely alike.
(Samsara2003) Good... I figure it was real, damnit!
(Samsara2003) Lol
(Energy00700) Nancy how do you explain that the poleshift is nowhere near happening in 4th density and above?
(Matt) Which one though? What about the face at Chilbolton?
(NancyL) You know, legit circles are beautiful, symtrical, no squashed grain, etc. and these fakes looked like they were done by drunken farmers out looking for the chickens or something.
(Matt) No way is the face faked
(Gerard) NancyL: I mentioned it to IQX
(NancyL) BrianC, good followup, and I'm trying to jot these down.
(BrianC) hehe, Yes they are pretty beautiful.
(Samsara2003) The face was incredible... I find it hard to believe that was fake
(Doodle) Nancy: what do you think of the stone slabs with relief on them which are supposed to be 120 million years old?
(Samsara2003) The other glyph... maybe.
(Gerard) About the radio file ...
(Matt) Yeah
(Tizza) Doodle : good Q.
(NancyL) Energy, because the Earth and Px (12th) are not in 4th Density yet!
(Samsara2003) The stone slabs... ALSO very good question
(S7L) Samsara2003: by contrast, it's easy to believe that it's fake on grounds that it's so very different from the crop circle design, which seems to favour symmetry exceedingly
(BrianC) Can you tell us some things that are different in Zeta-Math? Could they give us a formula or two? Wow that would be cool!
(MMT) Nancy, I took a picture of a light in the sky, when it was underexposed by a passing bus, a head appeared.
(S7L) The basic shape was rectangular, which is almost unheard of in crop circle schemes.
(Energy00700) Oh yeah they are HAHAHA ... we're waiting for ya Nancy ;) they are.
(Matt) Lol
(NancyL) During the physical transition to 4th, Px will not come over, just most of the Earth, so, no more pole shifts!
(Doodle) Here is the adress again http://english.pravda.ru/main/2002/04/30/28149.html
(Samsara2003) http://www.therussianissues.com/topics/55/02/04/02/14403.html
(Energy00700) Physical transition to 4th? Thats an interesting way of looking at it.
(Samsara2003) Also have that link
(NancyL) Samsara, do OTHER circles have faces? NEVER! And the quality was rediculous, nowhere near legit circles. I about threw up when I saw them.
(NancyL) Doodle, if we have time, we'll take Q's such as that old map, etc.
(Samsara2003) Thought it might have been something new.... I still think they're real...
(Energy00700) The crop circles are scientific symbols.
(Doodle) Ok
(BrianC) Can you tell us anything about Zeta-Math? Could they give us a formula or two? Like a solution for all prime numbers or something, would be great! :-)
(Matt) Obviously not talking about the same thing here.
(NancyL) BrianC, Zetas won't speak math to humans, who are all wet on math. For instance, we use zero and they don't.
(Samsara2003) I'ld like to hear more about Zeta culture too....
(BrianC) I use zero! Please. Ohhh
(Energy00700) Nancy, how do you explain that the human consciousness which is rising is making the pole-shift even harder?
(Zetapal) Crop circles are visual clues for the sub-conscious mind/per z's.
(NancyL) No common ground. They used human math to prove the Moon not being according to Newton, by letting humans DO the math, and then commenting.
(Energy00700) And less possible
(Samsara2003) Top 5 Zetan recreational activities? perhaps...
(Samsara2003) Hehe
(Matt) Lol
(Tizza) Nancy: I have been wondering lately about the "Maree Man" wether that is also simular to sign ass crop circles?
(Torbj) And the jellyfish is fleeing the big seas.
(Samsara2003) How about the Crabs appearing on oceanbeach in San Diego?
(NancyL) Samsara, when we run down on other subjects, then talk about the Zeta culture, but they did that already in the Worlds section.
(BrianC) Well would they at least start on describing anything, even the most basic simplest thing in there math... They use zero is a good start.
(NancyL) Energy, that's a stupid wish, that the pole shift won't happen if we WISH it not to. Get real! Cure your cancer that way, or the starvation in the Sudan!
(Matt) Sirgrim:whats up with the Blake radio file on WAGD?
(Gerard) Samsara: there is a mention there about zeta schools, entertainment and so
(N) Do they have symbols for numbers like 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ??
(Samsara2003) Really?
(NancyL) Tizza, what is the Maree Man?
(Samsara2003) I'll take a look...
(Tizza) Maree Man was an enormous man carved into the chalky ground in Aust. outback seemingly overnight.
(NancyL) Samsara, crabs are not in San Diego normally? They're up the coast, for sure.
(Tizza) No one could say how or were it came from
(NancyL) BrianC, why do math lessons? What is the point?
(BrianC) Math is exciting.
(Energy00700) Nancy your chanelings are wrong in the sense that you are seeing everything above physical as physical. You simplify too much and glorify the "youknowwho" too much...
(BrianC) And maybe there will be some zeta accuracy to go along with it.
(NancyL) Sirgrim :-) The nonprofit will ship that Sun server if you're short on cash that way, you know.
(Energy00700) I wonder if you would understand
(Energy00700) Or if anyone would
(Tizza) No signs of heavy machinery or anything... this was about a year or 2 ago.
(Energy00700) I thought that some serious subjects would be discussed.
(N) how do they write 1+1=2 ????
(BrianC) It's a natural thing, found in nature and the like, some crop circles are fractals etc.
(NancyL) Tizza, sounds like an Aboriginal thing :-)
(Torbj) Like the sunspot activity?
(NancyL) Energy, the ZetaTalk info has an accuracy track record, before you say "wrong" and something else "right", show me the others track record!
(Okidok) some crop circles are in fact sacred geometry
(Energy00700) :) Surely
(Tizza) Nancy: aboriginal design for sure, but it was miles and miles long, massive in fact... and it just apeared over night.
(BrianC) Imagine the attention you would get if you came up with a solution to some math problems. Like for Prime numbers or something.
(Energy00700) Time will show you better then I ever could.
(Energy00700) I just wanted to see what your energy configuration is ...
(Zetapal) Energy- if you say so then it must be true? Does reality adapt to your perceptions or vice versa -
(NancyL) BrianC, no ZetaTalk Accuracy with math, as the humans make their formulas to equal all the time, plugging in the same factors, and would say Zetas did the same, so no winning that argument.
(Andeomon) Reality is nothing but what we see it, its imagination so yes
(Torbj) You are born with it.... that "energyconfiguration"
(NancyL) Tizza, I'll add it if we move along today, etc. Good Q. Kind of related.
(N) Can you put a online Zeta language lesson?
(Tizza) Nancy:and about 2 months later it was eroded away.
(Andeomon) No no its just seeing what Nancys intentions are thats all, like the resulting force of her matrix on all levels and I see where she is "leaking" ...
(Gerard) N: uuuh, and for what use, for what purpose...
(Samsara2003) Any talk today, perhaps about the 2nd passage and when that will - as it will be a little hard to see Nibiru coming back with the Volcanic dust in the skies.
(NancyL) N, the Zetas use telepathy to communicate, and their language in any case would mean nothing to you, so what's the point?
(Tizza) Nancy: Ta :) it seems related but I just dont follow how it fits in with everything else.
(Zetapal) Andeomon - will reality cease to exist when you can no longer see? I think it will continue with or without you
(BrianC) Nancy, I would just like to know a little more about their math. Another question is how do we help ourselves/others grow.
(Andeomon) Teach us Nancy
(Adsf231) Do zetas use negative numbers?
(Samsara2003) Zetatalk does mention a 'second set of catalysms'
(Andeomon) Their language
(Samsara2003) Yet nothing else is written about it
(Samsara2003) Dates are vague...
(N) Purpose : uhhhh, I do not exactly know
(NancyL) Samsara, no one will notice the 2nd passage, and it will be on the other side of the Sun from us, etc.
(Zetapal) Have you seen my reality lately?
(NancyL) OK, going to start with 1st Q:
(NancyL) ANTHRAX / SMALL POX
(NancyL) 1. Why have eleven microbiologists died in the past five months? Sounds like a conspiracy to me.
(Andeomon) Zetapal , we are part of this reality untill we achieve our own. We bend this reality and learn how to make it our own until we accend beyond this universe... like many before and make our own game.
And your reality is grim btw.
(Gerard) Okay folks hush now
(Zetapal) Thanks for setting me straight Andeomon
(NancyL) ZT: After the Attack on American on 911, and the subsequent Anthrax mailings and murmurrings about Small Pox by the US government, a number of scientists whose expertise was in microbiology were killed rather brutally - obvious assassinations.
(Gerard) No chatter please at this moemnt
(Andeomon) Nancy, was the 911 attack a conspiracy?
(Gerard) Andeomon: HUSH
(NancyL) ZT: Unlike the normal elimination of those who might leak information, or provide assistance to the enemy, these deaths were outstanding in their brutality and obvious nature.
(Andeomon) Ummm, I'm just following up.
(NancyL) ZT: Some were hacked to death, beaten, thrown off bridges, and almost none dying in a manner that might be termed natural.
(NancyL) ZT: Why the brutality, and who was behind these murders?
(NancyL) ZT: To understand the reason for the message being given by the assassins, one must understand the background.
(DavidS) What was the question (pardon)?
(Andeomon) Ots just that I dont sense the laws which are so well accepted and pushed ... by her ... about 911
(NancyL) ZT: Germ warfare has for many decades been a threat that great powers such as the US and Russia and those power hungry such as Iraq have used.
(Andeomon) And deaths afterwards
(NancyL) ZT: It reared its head during the Gulf War in that Saddam was suspected of using germ warfare on his own people, the Kurds to the north, and in the south to punish rebellion.
(NancyL) ZT: It reared its head when it was discovered that Russia had produced more Anthrax than reported and had burried it on an island vulnerable to land contact.
(NancyL) ZT: It reared its head again during the Anthrax attacks following 911, and in the constant mutterings of the Bush Administration on the need for Small Pox vacinations.
(NancyL) ZT: Who is planning germ warfare, and what is the relationship of these obvious assassinations?
(NancyL) ZT: Massive programs, like the ones in the US done by the CIA, in Russia, and Iraq, require more than labs and secrecy, they require expertise.
(NancyL) ZT: Scientist are sworn into secrecy, and threatened with death if they divulge whome they have assisted.
(NancyL) ZT: The Gulf War was not ONLY afflicted with germ warfare at the hand of Saddam, it also afflicted the American soldiers at the hand of the then President, George Bush.
(NancyL) ZT: The Gulf War syndrom is not secret, nor is the manner in which the foot soldier was treated by the US Military.
(NancyL) ZT: They were NOT sick, and it was NOT the fault of the Military, until years after proof was well in hand and the public encensed.
(NancyL) ZT: What was the point of infecting their own soldiers? They were perfect test subjects, reporting regularly to the clinics in the US which gathered data, and would be unlikely to go elsewhere as their medical care was by the government.
(NancyL) ZT: The illness was not to be fatal as much as debilitating, which it was.
(NancyL) ZT: Chemtrails likewise are a study in how to make a populace sick, so it cannot demand services and food from its government.
(NancyL) ZT: In this, the righteous US Government is the hand of evil, and the group in the Bush Administration has blood on their hands.
(NancyL) ZT: But the story does not end there.
(NancyL) ZT: MORE than the handful of micro-biologists who died participated in development of germs combination for illness, debillity, and elimination of an ememy or population.
(NancyL) ZT: These were the ones who were noted to talk among themselves, on the phone, by mail, even via email, when the Anthrax attacks began.
(NancyL) ZT: In that the CIA, in labs in the ultra-right Utah area, produced the Anthrax that was to bring down Democratic Senators and bring the Senate back into the Republican fold, they were particularly nervous about such leaks.
(NancyL) ZT: It should be noted that NO ONE has ever been brought to justice for these attacks against the Democratic Senators, even when the Anthrax source was KNOWN.
(NancyL) ZT: Such is the aliance of the Bush Administration.
(NancyL) ZT: Those micro-biologists who were killed, brutally, and in an obvious manner, were to be a warning to those they communicated with that THEY should not feel free to chatter.
(LeRenard) Zetas seem to know alot about politics... heh... I wonder if they know about other nations politics as well... like a country where Nancy Leider does not live in...
(NancyL) ZT: Did the CIA reach into Russian and the UK and other countries to assassinate? Yes, as they are skilled in posturing as simple business people or tourists or family members visiting.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the reason they were killed was indeed because they knew about the programs, the intent, and were likely to talk.
(Andeomon) Le: They say its hard to channel it if she's not from that country ;) USA is the Home of Zetans too so understand it
(Gerard) LeRenard: if you are just her to disrupt like you usualy do, then leave. Now hush.
(NancyL) ZT: But it was also as a warning to others to CONTINUE assistance, with a tighly zipped mouth.
(LeRenard) LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(Samsara2003) My God
(CalneCrusader) Can you answer LeRenards point Nancy?
(Matt) Which one?
(Samsara2003) Article on the above assisination: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/printarticle/gam/20020504/UMURDN
(NancyL) Which was? What about france? Or what?
(LeRenard) :) Well I'm not french. I;m Ecuadorian.
(BrianC) Man those guys are bad.
(NancyL) Going onto Q2 as there is not much followup.
(CalneCrusader) About the zetas only speaking about US politics
(LeRenard) Can the zetas talk about this little country?
(DuncanC) Nancy: I've read in Mack's books reports from contactees who not only receive visions of PS scenario, but warn of plague epidemics, AIDS-like plagues. To what extent is mil/gov't agencies responsible for this?
(Matt) Too fast
(Nosafety) Yeah, those Zetas sure do hate the US Republicans.
(Doodle) Lol
(Samsara2003) Is the recent rise in cases of Autism related to this Government consipracy (allegedy from innoculations) RECENT TIME MAGAZINE ARTICLE
(LeRenard) lol
(NancyL) Duncan, quick answer, about 50/50 natural and man made. AIDS and Ebola will decimate Africa, per the Z's, and this is a human affliction thanks to the CIA etc.
(NancyL) ZT to Samsara: Autism on the rise is not a manmade affliction nor related.
(LeRenard) NancyL: would u please answer my question?
(DuncanC) K... can you give us any idea as to why more contactees have not come forward as you have? Though they have been warned of coming disasters, etc?
(CalneCrusader) Nancy, could you please ask Z's to talk about something other than US internal affairs
(Andeomon) Is AIDS manufactured Nancy?
(NancyL) ZT: That this increase is related to inbreeding, among those with similar propensities.
(Samsara2003) That's what I thought...
(Andeomon) Did the CIA aid the 911 attacks?
(NancyL) ZT: Obsessive individuals do not feel comfortable among those with high emotions and spontaneity.
(Dimension-Rider) Is M.E. chronic fatigue a man made phenomena?
(NancyL) ZT: They bond, befriend, and spend time with others who like a regimented life style.
(Hugo-Au-Go-Go) Capricorns probably.
(NancyL) ZT: Repeatedly intermarrying, this then becomes a dominate gene, and expresses.
(NancyL) End ZT to Samsara.
(DuncanC) K... can you give us any idea as to why more contactees have not come forward as you have? Though they have been warned of coming disasters, etc?
(NancyL) Andeomon, AIDS is already in ZT and is natural, just ultilized by the CIA, same with Ebola.
(Andeomon) Ok then :)
(LeRenard) Umm
(NancyL) Andeo, the Z's have already spoken to 911, re CIA, answer NO.
(Samsara2003) How widespread are the Chemtrails that are creating these sicknesses.... (entire US, world, which areas).
(Andeomon) And what about CIAs involvement in 911
(Andeomon) Ok good that just tells me a lot.
(NancyL) Duncan, not a related Q. Going to Q2 on Agenda.
(LeRenard) NancyL: Why cant u speak no other than US affairs?
(Dimension-Rider) I heard AIDS came from a lab in Russia
(NancyL) IMPLANTS
(NancyL) 1. Will you ask the Zeta's about implants by humans. This has been an active stock lately and it is said a whole family is to be implanted on TV this week. The stock is adsx. Where did they get the idea from? Will this be used by STS?
(Gerard) Okay folks hush now.
(NancyL) ZT: Imagine a government such as the Bush Administration, pondering the coming pole shift.
(Hugo-Au-Go-Go) Bushwhacked.
(Gerard) Folks no chatter during the answer please ... It's kinda disturbing.
(NancyL) ZT: They are not CERTAIN it will happen as we have defined, but note our other predictions have played out and are wary enough to be stockpiling food stuffs and beefing up the military to use as their personal defense force, or so they hope.
(NancyL) ZT: They are wary enough to be pretending, publically, that chemtrails do not exist.
(NancyL) ZT: What might be their plans re the populace at large?
(Torbj) Duncan... Contactees are coming forward big time world wide.... Nancy is a contactee with a internetconnection.....
(NancyL) ZT: Playing God, as they do in their smoke filled rooms, they divide the populace into desireables and undesireables.
(NancyL) ZT: Those considered desireable are uniformly white, educated, passive in nature, and likely to be dependent upon others and desperate to cooperate.
(NancyL) ZT: Those considered undesireable are people of color, those whose culture has taught them rebellion, or those prone to disease.
(NancyL) ZT: In that MOST undesireables can be sorted out by color, social security number and past work record, or police record, they are not a concern. They will simply be excluded from any government sponsored survivor camp.
(NancyL) ZT: But what about disease? Medical records are priviledged, and few doctors are likely to change this practice over the next year.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, human implants are NOT to locate those to be saved, but to identify those to be excluded, for medical reasons.
(NancyL) ZT: Those rushing to be implanted are those who need to be quickly identified in a medical emergency.
(NancyL) ZT: Ergo, they have a disease, genetic, or needing medication, or some such.
(NancyL) End ZT Followup?
(LeRenard) NancyL: would u please answer my question? Why dont u talk about ny other than US affairs?
(BrianC) Will this become large scale?
(Cruithne) R the smoke filled rooms from pot smoking
(Samsara2003) Haha
(Doodle) :)
(DuncanC) Lol
(Matt) No cause then they would be friendly
(Hugo-Au-Go-Go) Implants are science fiction in all but the US
(NancyL) Le-R, US is in a leadership position, worldwide, that's why.
(LeRenard) NancyL: Why cant u speak no other than US affairs?
(Samsara2003) Will pot grow easily after the poleshift... Lol j/k
(Bailey) Lol
(NancyL) Can you be more specific as to your question?
(NancyL) BrianC, no, not widespread.
(JubJub963) They do not seriously expect to implant a ton of people in the next year do they Nancy?
(DuncanC) Samsara: sadly no, as they need lots of light
(LeRenard) NancyL: well, the zetas may know about everywheres affair uh?
(look_4) Nancy, any comments from the Zetas regarding chemtrails appearring in Canada lately?
(JubJub963) It's too late, I assume
(Kirk) Hemp would be useful tho
(Samsara2003) Damn
(DuncanC) Kirk true
(Samsara2003) Won't ask how you know that...
(NancyL) Le-R, what is YOUR QUESTION! You're just doing a complaint!
(CalneCrusader) Most people live in China and you haven't said anything about them.
(Andeomon) Hehe yeah.
(LeRenard) Tell me about, for example, Colombias FARC? They're motives, etc.
(NancyL) JubJub, I don't know the plans, but I think few are rushing forward, etc.
(Andeomon) You have to understand that these channelings aren't direct
(LeRenard) Surely all might zetas do know about it
(Samsara2003) I'm not clear on what is meant by IMPLANTS?
(LeRenard) And please, don't relate it to US :)
(Andeomon) They are towards her 3rd density from before and they can't be done in real time with complete prescision.
(Andeomon) Unless she knows a lot about the subject in her physical existance.
(Okidok) Nancy, Is Chemtrails a local USA affaire?
(LeRenard) Lol
(LeRenard) Andeomon: a beautiful mind?
(LeRenard) Lol
(CalneCrusader) That is convenient Andeoman isn't it.
(Andeomon) :)
(NancyL) ZT to Le-R re FARC: This group resents the current government of Columbia being in bed with the US re drug running, and wishes to free Columbia to become what it can be in their minds.
(BrianC) Le-Renard , Le-Retard?
(Samsara2003) What is an IMPLANT?
(Torbj) Some people here are afraid....
(NancyL) ZT: They want the US OUT, and drug runners to be KING. As simple as that.
(NancyL) End ZT to Le-R.
(Andeomon) I can nearly hear the radio clicks.
(NancyL) OK, onto Q3, Crop Circles ...
(Gerard) Okay folks, some questions that are asked now are not related .. please stick to the subjects
(NancyL) CROP CIRCLES
(NancyL) 1. Are cropcircles in the main orbit symbols? or chakra symbols or something else? Has the Zeta's something to say more about it?
(NancyL) 2. The new Mel Gibson movie, a Px message?
(Andeomon) I agree with Gerard
(Torbj) Know that you are afraid, and you are on track.
(NancyL) ZT: A quick answer re the Chilbolton circles, which show a face and a pattern akin to binary code or radio.
(Gerard) A follow up question have to be related
(NancyL) ZT: There are several indications that these are man-made, not genuine.
(Samsara2003) NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Matt) The stand alone face ain't.
(NancyL) ZT: 1. They do not follow the previous pattern, which is mysterious and circular, NOT rectangular and obvious.
(Okidok) Another conspiracy
(NancyL) ZT: 2. They are crudely done, with broken grain which will not grow again and grain bend in all directions.
(NancyL) ZT: 3. They are not the SIZE of genuine circles, being tiny not massive, and thus able to be done by man in his fakery.
(NancyL) ZT: So what was the point? Why were they done?
(NancyL) ZT: The early debunkers claiming to have done the circles with board, in England, got lots of media attention but were not, frankly, believed by the public.
(NancyL) ZT: Those running the debunking program wished for a fresh start, and these circles are an attempt to get back into the media.
(NancyL) ZT: After awhile, the plan was for them to come forward and present video of the making, and thus debunk afresh that crop circles are alien.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter, onto other parts of the Q.
(CalneCrusader) Nancy, last year I stood in the Milk Hill 407 formation, the largest in the world - can the zetas tell me if it was real/fake, and what is the name of the nearest village to it? The zetas will of course know the answer.
(NancyL) ZT: Mankind often complains that crop circles are not CLEAR in their intent, their message.
(DuncanC) Calne: yo she's not a fortune teller, she's not going to tell you the winning lotto numbers or guess your birthday.
(NancyL) ZT: It is clear they are increasing in complexity, often have circles that might be considered planets or suns in a solar system, and their relationship by some force or another.
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated that the makers of genuine crop circles are speaking to the subconscious of man, who understands the message even if the more rigid conscious resists.
(NancyL) ZT: The subconscious understand the body language of someone afraid, or feeling sexual, or resentful.
(NancyL) ZT: The conscious is aware that the rules of society are being followed, the right clothing worn, and the schedule on time.
(Okidok) If it is a hoax , why does nobody see this crop circles been made, and how can these hoaxers get the overview to make them
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the conscious views crop circles and puzzles, but the subconscious understands.
(Feverglow) I've seen a video of what looked like 2 Orbs making a crop circle!?
(Cruithne) Me too
(NancyL) ZT: Mankind is aware, both subconsciously and consciously, that the weather has become unpredictable, the poles melting, and the fauna and flora about his migrating and behaving out of keeping with what is expected.
(TellMeSomethingIDontKnow) Me too
(Orion) That's a good video
(LeRenard) That video proven to be fake
(DuncanC) LeRenard: proven, how?
(TellMeSomethingIDontKnow) Nancy, did you know that Nikola Tesla knew how to invert Earths polarity?
(NancyL) ZT: They see the Moon with halos about it, the jet stream passing clouds overhead in odd ways, and note that NO ONE seems to have an explanation outside of what seems silly.
(Gerard) Okay .. guys one more time HUSH AND NO CHATTER DURING THE ANSWER PLEASE.
(NancyL) ZT: If Global Warming is the issue, then why does the US excuse itself to polute merrily away?
(TellMeSomethingIDontKnow) Someone was making a lot of mess
(NancyL) ZT: What crop circles are presenting is the relationship between the inbound planet and the OTHER planets in the solar system.
(TellMeSomethingIDontKnow) thats 1 person counting as 9 ... no wonder the room is so filled !
(NancyL) ZT: Where a scopions tail is presented, this is the manner that the Moons of the inbound planet trail a traveling planet.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the message "traveling" has been given.
(NancyL) ZT: Where several planets are placed with lines drawn between them, this is presenting the many pushes and pulls that planets have against one anohter.
(NancyL) ZT: One such force is gravity, which boths pushes and pulls, another is magnetism.
(NancyL) ZT: There are many OTHER forces that affect the placement of planets in the ecliptic, but man is unaware of these particle flows so we will not expound.
(Nosafety) Please Try
(CalneCrusader) Nancy, last year I stood in the Milk Hill 407 formation, the largest in the world - can the zetas tell me if it was real/fake? I am looking at the moon now and I definately do not see a halo
(NancyL) ZT: Where crop circles were simple at first, a single circle, this message was, they are static, established, and the push and pull balanced so what you see perpetuates itself.
(NancyL) ZT: What we call the equilibrium of the solar system.
(NancyL) ZT: When more circles are entered, and lines drawn, this represents the equilibrium being disrupted.
(NancyL) ZT: Large designs such as snow flakes, where there is a branching from central points, these central points then connected, are relaying yet another message.
(NancyL) ZT EACH of these planets has it's own kingdowm, and influences its own moons and the like.
(NancyL) ZT: Yet they likewise affect each OTHER.
(NancyL) ZT: We would suggest those curious about the meaning of these genuine crop circles do through their history, placing them on a table by date, and pass their eye over them.
(NancyL) ZT: They will see the equilibrium of the solar system being disrupted as these circles progress over time.
(Andeomon) Everything is over-simplified here. this is just a way for the Zetans to try and get some public support but they're failing in it as they have failed in everything recently ... theres really only 51 people here. Lol
(NancyL) ZT: They will get the FEELING of what is happening to the solar system, where many planets and moons of these planets are exhibiting a distrubed equilibrim, changing, heating up, or whatever.
(NancyL) ZT: Once having gotten that FEELING, the conscious is allowing the subconscious to speak more loudly, and this should be allowed to continue.
(LeRenard) Well... would u please change subject?
(NancyL) ZT: Never mind what other humans have told you are the explanation for crop circles, YOU listen to your subconscious.
(NancyL) End ZT on that issue, now AU massive man.
(Karen) Last cropcircle I saw looked like an enormous chrysanthemum, no lines.
(LeRenard) NancyL: The Whole world seems to be able to refute any kind of "pesudo-scientific" statement you make in the newsgroup sci.astro (for those who havent read go to groups.google.com and look for sci.astro). Cant you just give some kind of physical proof or take on of the exceptics with you or make the zetas to talk to him as well.... that will surely give you much more credibility. Is that a posibility?
(Dan33) What determines a planets position in the solar system, shouldn't small planets be close to the sun based on mass, but Pluto isn't?
(Gerard) Le-Renard-- uuh you know by now, no chatter during the answer or asking questions ...
(BrianC) Why don't the crop circle show an obvious solar system (ours) with the tenth planet?
(Andeomon) Tell Krilll we Grill greys every day and we dont even know the poor creatures their brains just pop all over the place!
(Okidok) Who is behind these circles?? Are the entities from zetas or other aliens??
(Gerard) AND THIS IS NO SCI.ASTRO
(Sirgrim) Dan33: than pluto was obviously created last
(NancyL) ZT: The massive man recently produced by the Aborigines in AU was NOT done simply by these hightly STO tribes, but was assisted by aliens.
(Sirgrim) Or joined up last
(NancyL) ZT: The message? These beleagered aboriginals, so long mistreated by those in power in AU, are LARGER than their prosecutors, and here's proof.
(Matt) Way too many styles of crop-circles to ALL be about the planets???
(MMT) Why can't a regular 3600 y orbit for Millions of years be part of the equilibrium?
(LeRenard) NancyL: The Whole world seems to be able to refute any kind of "pesudo-scientific" statement you make in the newsgroup sci.astro (for those who havent read go to groups.google.com and look for sci.astro). Cant you just give some kind of physical proof or take on of the exceptics with you or make the zetas to talk to him as well.... that will surely give you much more credibility. Is that a posibility?
(NancyL) ZT: It is a message to those inflated egos in charge of politics in AU, and those in England planning to migrate there, deserting their countrymen in time of need.
(NancyL) ZT: The message is, "Hey, you BIG men, with BIG heads, you're not so big! Look here, at the simple aboriginals, we're the REAL BIG men."
(Zantrin) Given the early spring up here north of the artic circle (19C here today) when is the sudden frost supposed to happen???
(Gerard) LeRenard: come on this is not related... AND THIS IS NO SCI.ASTRO ...
(NancyL) End ZT on CC and all, Followup?
(Andeomon) NancyL: Listen. The Zetans are pure Lucifers servants. I don't understand but it seems you're fighting against yourself.
(Matt) Lol go hard abos!
(NancyL) We had a netsplit, right? Are all back with us?
(Sirgrim) NancyL: I created a cool 'Enhanced By ZetaTalk - Contactee' link button that's on wagd.com and links to you, you're more than welcome to give it out and use it for whatever.
(Andeomon) Yes all 9 of fake IDs
(Samsara2003) To ZT:Who are the groups responsible for perpetrating the crop circle hoaxes, in the main?
(Gerard) Yes Nancy they are
(LeRenard) NancyL: would u please answer my question ?
(NancyL) Matt, why can't man build building that don't fall down in quakes? Are not occasional quakes part of the equilibrium?
(Andeomon) Nancy , why do Zetans radiate with so much negative energy?
(Andeomon) And yet here you talk about fighting for positivity?
(NancyL) I'm only reading the Q's posed since I shut up, not going back.
(Matt) Sorry? To me?
(LeRenard) NancyL: The Whole world seems to be able to refute any kind of "pesudo-scientific" statement you make in the newsgroup sci.astro (for those who havent read go to groups.google.com and look for sci.astro). Cant you just give some kind of physical proof or take on of the exceptics with you or make the zetas to talk to him as well.... that will surely give you much more credibility. Is that a posibility?
(LeRenard) There
(NancyL) Zantrin, we don't give detail weather predictions.
(RobH) Thank you!
(NancyL) Sirgrim :-) What is your site?
(Samsara2003) Good Riddance...
(Sirgrim) http://www.WAGD.com no popups, the graphics on the left
(Okidok) Nancy why does thes circles only appear in the Whiltshire area in UK??
(Andeomon) NancyL , why are you ignoring me?
(Okidok) Almost
(NancyL) Le-R, I don't find ZT refuted at all.
(Zantrin) Ihe royal we and the zīs have left for now?!
(Andeomon) He's not here
(Samsara2003) Lol
(Andeomon) Yeah lol
(Jan) Gerard, can't you get this Andreomon to shut up?
(Torbj) My daughter gave me a heartformed piece of wood to day
(Andeomon) Why?
(NancyL) Okido, re UK circles, the Zetas already said they get good media coverage, the Brits intelligent and doing good analysis, so that's why they put a LOT of them in the UK!
(Dan33) What determines a planets position in the solar system, is it only mass?
(Jeremy) Will crop cricles continue to appear right up to final few weeks prior to the pole shift?
(Torbj) Look what I find, she said..
(BrianC) Nancy, Why aren't the crop circles obvious on the Planet X approach?
(Andeomon) Because we're fighting for democracy the way I see it Nancy, but in this room no one is allowed to state their own opinions :D LOL RIGHT?
(SteveH) Did the zeta's have any comment on the Mel Gibson movie Signs?
(Hugo-Au-Go-Go) Signs?
(NancyL) Dan33, the Z's have said (Eliptic writeup in Science I think) that planets would float to different orbits if the other planets were to disappear, etc.
(Torbj) Itsīthere for all of us to find.... feel like a child!
(Samsara2003) You forgot the Mel Gibson Movie... only 3 minutes left
(S7L) Dan33: of course not. Position is determined by at leat mass and motion. When you have initial position, direction of movement and mass, according to established science those ARE all the things necessary to determine the position.
(RobH) Yeah what about SIGNS?
(NancyL) It is many particle flows, and we're all in the backwash of major particle flows going back INTO the Sun, pushed out by repulsion force from the Sun and other planets, etc.
(Andeomon) We love doing this :D
(NancyL) Jermey ZT: Crop Cicles will appear as long as a place to draw them exists, right up until the shift itself.
(Zantrin) Hmmmm, a perfect (verifiably not a hoax) cropcircle with the message "WE ARE HERE" written in english preferably in arial bold font type would be .... nice when x get realy close?!
(Sirgrim) I found the government's recent report of solar rays interferring with satellite transmissions laughable, seams like they're preparing people for them to go down.
(NancyL) ZT: If grain fields become scarse, then desert sand might be used.
(NancyL) ZT: As in AU lately, carving rock stata might occur.
(Jeremy) NancyL: Crop circle watchers stay tuned!
(Andeomon) Grain feilds, dead scientsist, tell me something i CANT read about in my newspapers?
(Andeomon) wb LeR
(NancyL) ZT: In that the mankind will be more fearful, more likely to be in touch with their subconsciosu, over this next year, going into the shift, circles will have MORE impact and thus will most likely appear more OFTEN.
(Gerard) Okay you know it now .... no disruption or you will get banned again the same for the others ... it's annoying...
(NancyL) ZT: They will, we predict, get less media coverage than before, becoming a local phenomena.
(Matt) Signs movie please
(NancyL) ZT: But the impact may be greater for this, as visiting such as creation has an impact far beyond simply seeing pictures.
(Andeomon) After the great war all that remained of the Lucifers forces was in the colony of Zeta Reticulum where they were mixed with reptilian and many other races. The humans now reside only on Earth Pleiades and Procyon colonies and are fighting with the Galactic Council against the terror of the Zetans.
(NancyL) End ZT to Jeremy.
(Jeremy) Thanks
(LeRenard) Ok
(NancyL) Sirgrim, didn't know they were talking satellites. Very good!
(LeRenard) Now I'll ask
(LeRenard) NancyL: The Whole world seems to be able to refute any kind of "pesudo-scientific" statement you make in the newsgroup sci.astro (for those who havent read go to groups.google.com and look for sci.astro). Cant you just give some kind of physical proof or take on of the exceptics with you or make the zetas to talk to him as well.... that will surely give you much more credibility. Is that a posibility?
(Gerard) Andemoen: I guess you want a ban ... or so ?
(Andeomon) Live the resistance!
(AOk) How fast will Px travel during nearest earth flyby?
(Andeomon) :) No ... just stating my opinions because I want to relate to this
(Andeomon) Cos I'm not allowed to state my opinions right?
(NancyL) Le-R. Short answer to all your statements - NO.
(Sirgrim) I'll try to find an article, think it just came out last night
(Andeomon) :(
(Hugo-Au-Go-Go) Give Andeomon his space!
(Dan33) Where will the people flock to after the poleshift, any particular city or area?
(Zantrin) Does the zetas know of any 5th density or higher are presently active in an incarnation on earth?
(NancyL) AOK, travel is a good Q and should be added to next weeks agenda, I'll do that. SPEED, and when and how fast, etc.
(Andeomon) New Jerusalem :)
(Nosafety) Sirgrim, the effects of geomagnetic storms on the birds has been known for decades
(LeRenard) Nancy?
(Karen) Thank you again Nancy and Zeta's for Zetatalk till next week take care
(LeRenard) Please answer my question.. am I inisible ?
(Sirgrim) Nosafety: we're talking satellites in orbit without an atmosphere.
(Gerard) I didn't say that you are not allowed to state a different opiinion... but it's the way how you do it
(Hugo-Au-Go-Go) SIGNS?
(Sirgrim) Not biological entities
(NancyL) I think the distance chart developed by TT members is not all right, as it is poky at times, faster at others, etc.
(LeRenard) NancyL: The Whole world seems to be able to refute any kind of "pesudo-scientific" statement you make in the newsgroup sci.astro (for those who havent read go to groups.google.com and look for sci.astro). Cant you just give some kind of physical proof or take on of the exceptics with you or make the zetas to talk to him as well.... that will surely give you much more credibility. Is that a posibility?
(Nosafety) Thats what a bird is Sirgrim
(Matt) *SIGNS*
(Samsara2003) How about the movie signs, Nancy?
(BrianC) Why aren't the crop circles obvious on Planet X's approach, like a nice solar system picture with it etc.
(Hugo-Au-Go-Go) Yeah and painted in red!
(NancyL) OH, I forgot about the Mel Gibson movie part!
(S7L) Le-Renard--: I think we have established by now that your query does not generate interest for a reply. Thank you for playing.
(Matt) Phew
(Gerard) LeRenard: geeezzzzzzzzzzz go to sci.astro or so ... one more time is enough.
(Andeomon) BrianC, her interpretations of the crop circles are just planned as a confusion
(Andeomon) Those who are fighting against the Zetans are painting them on our feilds
(NancyL) ZT: The new movie, Signs, which deals with crop circles and the mystery they encompass, is NOT about a pole shift.
(LeRenard) S7L: I think its not convenient for your group to answer my question
(BrianC) Andeomon? I doubt that.
(NancyL) ZT: It is of the ilk that most alien movies have been, lately.
(Andeomon) Those who fight for freedom liberty and truth
(Sirgrim) Nosafety: and birds have been going crazy.
(S7L) Don't talk about my group. I merely stated an observation.
(Sirgrim) Nosafety: also on whales, which have been beaching themselves in large numbers.
(LeRenard) Oh my god, the Zetas are inside hollywood as well, unbelievable
(Sirgrim) But that's not what I was talkin 'bout.
(Jan) Le-Renard, start doing some research yourself instead of listening to the deaf and dumb ones on sci.astro. There are numerous sources out there showing that current science is incorrect, that the moon is inhabited, that we have been visited before, that there have been pole-shifts etc.
(Andeomon) Zetans are technocratic, slaves - nothing more
(Feverglow) Cattle mutalations?
(Zantrin) Any heads up about future movies with some "significance"??
(NancyL) ZT: The message from the establishment is 1. cling to your government, who will protect you, 2. be suspicous of anything alien, they are out to eat or enslave you, 3. man wins out over aliens, even with inferiour technology
(Andeomon) Nancy knows who to ignore so well, she senses what I can do to her energy :) and is afraid ;)
(LeRenard) Jan: Nancy just said ZT doesn't get refuted at all in sci.astro
(NancyL) ZT: Nothing new in the movie business, sad to say.
(Hugo-Au-Go-Go) Andeomon:check out Wingmakers.com dude:)
(NancyL) End ZT.
(RobH) Too bad
(SteveH) Sounds dissapointing...
(Matt) But the poster is powerful
(Zantrin) Coment on the movie A.I?
(NancyL) Well, it's been the hour, and I need to rest.
(Nosafety) Birds=satellites Sirgrim, the effect has been know for decades, was nothing new.
(Nosafety) Thats because she doesn't read sci.astro, she just posts there.
(Andeomon) Sure hugo
(Samsara2003) Is there government involvement in the creation of the movie signs?
(ABK) Thanks, Nancy
(Bailey) Any thing to say on NESARA????
(Andeomon) Nancy, say bie bie to some of your energy shells for 1 week.
(Samsara2003) Is that what ZT meant to relate or was alluding to?
(LeRenard) Jan: Nancy just said ZT doesnt get refuted at all in sci.astro
(NancyL) Thank you all for attending and inspiring great ZetaTalk!
(Andeomon) Thanks for being such a good ranter
(SteveH) Thanks Nancy and Z's
(Torbj) Andeomon.... Nordic?
(Andeomon) I hope the zetans crash in our new WTC next time too ;)
(NancyL) Send me any Q's you have via the Contact Nancy link from my home page.
(LeRenard) Oh ur leaving now?
(Samsara2003) Damn
(Andeomon) Pleiadian
(LeRenard) Aah , Im putting ur website down this week
(LeRenard) So likely that wont be a possibility
(NancyL) Thank you Gerard for slogging through the policing problems here on the chat! :-)
(Andeomon) Nancy you are completely possessed
Session Close: Sat May 11 18:16:21 2002