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Live ZetaTalk Chat on Jan 04, 2003

Session Start: Sat Jan 04 14:15:53 2003
(Humor) Tell them your future plans. Gives them a sense things are organized and prepared. Gives them a sense of security when change occur.
(CMell) hhmm
(CMell) look to Tizza
(Endeavour3d) just wait 3 more months and they will believe you
(NancyL) Hello all, couple announcements if I may ...
(NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: Russian broadcasts! Our coordinator of the Russian translation teams informed me: "Yesterday (12/29/02) me and one of interpreters (Alex Senchenko) were invited guests on radio show Neizvestnaya Planeta (Unknown Planet). It was live air show on Mayak-24 (lighthouse) FM station
(NancyL) (http://www.radiomayak.ru/mayak24)."
(NancyL) "It broadcasts in Moscow, St. Petersburg and some other cities. The main topic was possible passage. I think it was good, we spoke about 40 minutes. Many calls into studio were supportive!"
(NancyL) "Also on last friday we recorded short programme for Radio Rossii (Radio of Russia http://www.radiorus.ru/) and it will be broadcast on 5 of January. This station covers almost all Russian territory!"
(NancyL) "Both station belongs to russian government however Unknown Planet is independent producing company."
(NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: Dec issue of After Dark features Nancy on Planet X and the 2003 Passage. Last I looked my photo was front and center on the new Coast web site http://www.coasttocoastam.com/afterdark/index.html
(NancyL) ANNOUNCEMENT: Planet X Video will be advertised on the Coast site. The video will also be featured in an article in the Feb issue of Nexus magazine, which I am told has a worldwide circulation. Robert, the producer is also booked for another interviews on the Lou Gentile show and I, Nancy have been invited back to debate Jason Martell, which offer I accepted.
(NancyL) Quote from the invitation "Would love to have you do a guest appearance on The Lou Gentile Show [http://www.lougentile.com/index2.html] during Feb. or Mar. 2003. We have had several requests for you to debate Jason Martell http://xfacts.com/"
(NancyL) Robert states that he offered to debate him Jason on the air, but he declined. Lets show a little backbone there, Jason, and step up to the plate!
(NancyL) End ANNOUNCEMENTS
(QueenVee) thanks Nancy
(QueenVee) significant uptick in publicity, eh?
(NancyL) I'm particularly impressed that Michael Kashin got two GOVERNMENT stations to host his interviews!
(Obany) good to hear that people in Russia ill get informed too
(QueenVee) WELCOME ALL. Nancy's ZetaTalk Session will begin in about 5 minutes. Moderation mode will be on while Nancy does ZetaTalk, after which there will be an opportunity for follow-up questions. If you have a question, please forward it to me on a private channel and I will consider it for the agenda.
(EcclesP) Coastal flooding on Boston's north and south shores a few hours ago during our 11th Nor'easter in last two months... 12-24 inches of snow.
(Obany) and well the south of Germany had problems with a hurricane some days ago
(Azul) Minutes ago a derailment in Spain (second today). Two dead at list.
(WestCoast) coastal flooding in Washington, too
(Azul) at least, i meant
(LadyInRed) i think the crust is already starting to shift
(QueenVee) Azul: wow. do you have a news link for that?
(BobS) Perhaps this question has been addressed, but can the z's (or anyone) say when the white and red personas will merge on CCD images?
(Humor) Between the flooding and hurricanes, the earth is like a huge washing machine!
(QueenVee) NANCY: Did you read about the recent sonic booms in India?
(EcclesP) Pluto's orbit
(LadyInRed) and spring is 3 months early in Spain
(Azul) Not yet, I've just heard it on the radio. Perhaps EFE agency.
(QueenVee) BobS: GOOD QUESTION
(QueenVee) I'll add it to the agenda
(Endeavour3d) when I take the images next time
(NancyL) Bobs, since we are still in the pre-chat mode, I'll respond. They will not merge, as they are composed of different LIGHT spectrums.
(Azul) Lady: do yoy mean in Italy?
(LadyInRed) lol
(NancyL) What we call the White light persona is just more direct, like starlight, less bent, but probably in the red light spectrum.
(Endeavour3d) I forgot to say this, when I gave the coordinates, this other guy that was there asked me these questions, mainly if the
(LadyInRed) maybe so, ive read so many news reports this morning i could have em mixed up
(NancyL) Thus, is shows up AT the coordinates, but is the lesser amount of light coming from Px.
(Endeavour3d) sorry, pressed enter too soon
(NancyL) What we call the Red persona is light that bends readily, and thus is NOT seen from stars which have a long way to go.
(Endeavour3d) he asked me if the "object" was in Orion and whatnot, basically he was asking me if it was Nibiru
(NancyL) The light from stars in that spectrum or wave length is bend and sent elsewhere.
(NancyL) The bending red light persona is the GREATER light from Px, at all times.
(LadyInRed) lots of strange things in the sun the past day too!
(NancyL) It bends to the gravity of the Earth, when passing over the Earth as it must unless DIRECTLY overhead.
(NancyL) Thus, when the camera is pointed EAST from Arizona early in the evening, the camera is pointing SEE or SES or some such, and the core pulls this red light DOWN and EAST.
(NancyL) If you diagram where this red light must pass over, looking into the southern constellation of Orion/Taurus, over the core, with the core east of Arizona early in the evening, you can see the logic.
(NancyL) When it is directly overhead, it is still SOUTH, being a southern constellation, so the red light is closer, but still DOWN from the White light persona.
(NancyL) Toward dawn, from Arizona, the camera is pointing west, but still down to a southern constellation, and thus the red light moves to the RIGHT but it also still DOWN.
(NancyL) I think, for the personas to merge, we would have to have a camera looking DIRECTLY overhead, in the southern hemisphere, positioned such.
(NancyL) End diatribe on this :-).
(BobS) Thanks Nancy...I was under the impression (thought the z's said) that at some point as px closes that the personas would close gap and basically merge to one persona as it is too close for the light to bend much anymore
(IdolHarobed) Stephen Hawking states in his book "Universe in a nutshell" that if we want greater brain capacity, we must raise fetus in tanks, due to enlargement of the head. Quite interesting.
(BobS) Thanks for the explanation :)
(QueenVee) NANCY, ARE YOU READY TO BEGIN?
(Jurian) Nancy, would you please draw a diagram on how the light bending with the different personas works? I'm pretty darn confused here, and I'm sure i"m not the only one
(NancyL) BobS, I think it will be LARGE as it approaches, so won't be missed and perhaps the personas will merge in this regard, the white being WITHIN the big red blob that is the red persona.
(NancyL) Queen READY! Yes.
(NancyL) Jurian, I think this is in the Science section, Red Light link or some such.
(NancyL) Diagrams are in there.
(Jurian) hmm, thanks :)
(QueenVee) FIRST QUESTION: Could the Zetas suggest ways that we can monitor and confirm the predicted slowing rotation of the earth. Has such slow-down begun yet, and when should we begin watching for a significant change in the earth's speed?
(NancyL) ZT: Slowing of the Earth, for the common man, is not an easy affair.
(NancyL) ZT: to register.
(NancyL) ZT: First, the Navy, as the Master Clock holders of the world, control networks which computers sych to during the night, quickly bringing all networks into sync with the Master Clock while the public sleeps.
(NancyL) ZT: Businesses, finding their manual clocks out of sync, adjust to MATCH, as do employees noticing their watches are off.
(NancyL) ZT: Even so-called atomic watches are watches that sync to the Master Clock.
(NancyL) ZT: The argument has been made that the true massive atomic clocks are NOT under the control of the US Navy, but this is a falacy as they are few, and in the hands of institutions that are under the thumb of the establishment, as are those employed by major observatories.
(NancyL) ZT: Few people need to be leaned on, and these people are allowed into their positions based on their signed agreements not to threaten what might be called national or world security issues, in other words, don't cause PANIC until we tell you it is OK to make an announcment.
(NancyL) ZT: Enter the common man, with his clocks and watches and PC's.
(NancyL) ZT: A minute off here or there, and he adjusts without thinking. Who remembers if the last time they tweaked their watch it was to set it a minute forward or backward?
(NancyL) ZT: The common movie line "synchronize watches" when going out on a closely coordinated operation indicates how OFTEN individual watches might be off a bit.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the common man will be accused of making it up, looking for attention, being confused, or whatever should he assert that clocks and watches are too FAST, by a minute or two, and increasingly so.
(NancyL) ZT: We have stated that the phases of the Moon will be one way to determine a slowdown.
(NancyL) ZT: Where the Earth has a magnetic core, and react to the approach of Planet X by a slowdown, the Moon has NO magnitized liquid core and cares not.
(NancyL) ZT: Its slow turn, every 28 days, around the Earth is steady, but not so easy to anticipate that the common man can determine just WHERE to look for the Moon.
(NancyL) ZT: First, the Moon has a 3 year cycle, and is further away or closer, faster or slower, in going around the Earth based on this.
(NancyL) ZT: This cycle, as noted by the Navy in their graphs, was adjusted in 1994 to pre-account for the slowdown now being experienced, so Moon phases would not be that quickly noticed.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, from 1994 to about 2000, the Moon was LATE in arriving at the published phase, a point noted by someone writing to Troubled Times with this information.
(NancyL) ZT: But most among the common man, looking at their calendar for the date of the Full Moon, will find the Full Moon pretty much on target, or appearing full, and the issue at this time is whether it is coming LATER in the evening or earlier, and this is information NOT on the calendars.
(NancyL) ZT: But at some point, and we estimate this to come on or about April 1 (no April Fool's Joke intended) the Full Moon will come a full day EARLY, as the Earth's rotation since 1994, a lost minute here and there, will have caught up with the Moon phases.
(NancyL) ZT: These calendars have been prepublished, the dates given by the Navy long ago, so any attempt to change them will be noted and can be compared against previously published calendars.
(NancyL) ZT: However, in truth, by April 1, 2003 or thereabout, matters will be so anxious, so extreme, so insecure, for most of mankind, and the Red Star visible in the daytime sky, that mankind will scarsely be looking at the MOON for evidence.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, the Navy effectively changed the Moon phases, on the calendars to be printed, in 1994.
(NancyL) ZT: However, as noted on the Troubled Times TEAM page re Slowing, the fact that they MODIFIED their graphics was palpable, evident, obvious.
(NancyL) ZT: They did not think that the public would NOTICE, but they did, among Troubled Times members, and posted on sci.astro, and Nancy included all in the TEAM pages, and there it is!
(NancyL) ZT: The 3 year cycles of the Moon, wabbling askew, taking short dips, cutting corners, and illogically so as the 50 year graphs show NO such variations!
(NancyL) ZT: Check it out! If you are looking for proof that the establishement has been LYING to you, there it IS!.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter.
(CMell) when things stabilize after the shift, will we thus see the backside of the moon (or part backside) ?
(NancyL) Front side, the face presenting to the Earth is fixed, apparently, by attractants whatever they are.
(Endeavour3d) unless PX puts a faster or slower spin on the Moon or changes it's orbit I don't really see why
(Cybervvizz) Q- what about astrology programs and other which calculate every moon aspect ?
(CMell) hmmm maybe I misunderstood
(Endeavour3d) however Nancy stated that it's a magnetic issue not gravitic, so it should (as she just stated) stay fixed as it is today
(NancyL) Endeav, it is not the MOON that is providing this evidence, it is the EARTH that turns more slowly under the Moon, thus the Full Moon comes LATER.
(CaptainNibiru) WHEN WILL PUBLIC BE AWARE OF THE SLOW DOWN?? NANCY??
(NancyL) YOU on the face of the Earth, arrive where you SEE the FULL MOON later than before.
(NancyL) Cyber, you're asking if astrology is valid, it is not.
(CMell) why is it the moon just happens to be spinning just enough for us to only see one side ?
(Cybervvizz) no, i ask about the moon aspects, astronomy calculated. they can't alter all those programs if Your story is true
(Endeavour3d) I think CMell was wondering if somehow we would see the otherside of the moon, as I said, it is dobtfull
(Cybervvizz) ephemeris
(NancyL) By Moon phases? Not until April 1 or so, and then so many evidences apparent, not the BIGGIE.
(DWander) CMell.. it's called tidal lock
(QueenVee) NancyL: so because of the adjustments that have been made to the moon phases calendars, it won't be until April 1st that the full moon will appear a day later than what the calendar says it should?
(NancyL) Captain N, if you watch your clocks, you KNOW that a slow down is NOW, but try to prove it.
(Endeavour3d) cmell: well it must be just luck, but since I don't believe in luck, it must be one of those astronomical balance things
(CMell) I misunderstood what was said by NL
(Agreg) are we loosing 5 min a week/month/or a day in Jan
(Shenamea) i get soo angry they are doing this!!!
(IdolHarobed) CMell: Objects in orbit tend to align its length with the earth center over time. Thus, we see one side, because Moon is not a perfect sphere.
(CMell) perhaps Endeavour3
(NancyL) One of my PC's is about 15 min faster than it should be, only started this in the past 3 years, was 5 min, now suddenly 15.
(NancyL) But all would say, this is just my PC, etc.
(QueenVee) NEXT QUESTION: ZT has suggested that travel may be restricted in some areas in the weeks prior to the poleshift....
(QueenVee) Will such restrictions be imposed primarily by governments in order to control panic? Or will travel be restricted more by weather/earth conditions? Will there be a significant uptick in severe weather, quakes, etc. in the 7 weeks prior to the shift, and should we take that into account when making travel plans?
(NancyL) CMell, the face we see is GLUED to the EARTH, which is why you only see that face, it does NOT turn the dark side ever to us.
(NancyL) Queen, you should look at the TEAM page on Slowing http://www.zetatalk.com/teams/tteam01.htm
(QueenVee) ok
(NancyL) This is ABSOLUTELY documented there, by Mike Lob who is a genius.
(QueenVee) I believe you!
(QueenVee) :-)
(NancyL) We researched the data in the Navy files, for this. Only going back about 10-20 years did not show the manipulation.
(NancyL) We did a 50 years thingie, and there is was, like a sore thumb!
(QueenVee) NEXT QUESTION: ZT has suggested that travel may be restricted in some areas in the weeks prior to the poleshift....
(QueenVee) Will such restrictions be imposed primarily by governments in order to control panic? Or will travel be restricted more by weather/earth conditions? Will there be a significant uptick in severe weather, quakes, etc. in the 7 weeks prior to the shift, and should we take that into account when making travel plans?
(NancyL) ZT: Travel restrictions will likely be imposed by governments in response to migrations, but not until this occurs.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, this will vary by country, within country, and in truth is in place LONG before pole shift issues such as weather changes and increasing starvation occurred.
(NancyL) ZT: The US has restrictions on immigration from Central America and Mexico, but wet backs and illegal nannies employed in the US have been a long standing problem.
(NancyL) ZT: North Korea is starving, the starving children among the populace creeping into China to raid flields and beg food ongoing for some years.
(NancyL) ZT: This is controlled NOT by the Chinese, who themselves are starving, but by the North Koreans, who do not want the world to know of their state.
(NancyL) ZT: Where sudden homelessness or joblessness is cared for in some manner IN SITU, at the site, there will be no migration and no travel restrictions.
(NancyL) ZT: An earthquake ravaged city, with tents cities placed on the perimeter and military to prevent looting, will find the majority of the populace in place, waiting for supper and not arguing with their military guards when told to return to their tents as there are looters afoot and they want the survivors to be safe.
(NancyL) ZT: If a long time running until the shift, months, such a tent city will need to clear travel for those parties who have relatives or second homes elsewhere, and passes will be issued under the guise of a pass so the MILITARY will allow passage, not think the travelers looters.
(NancyL) ZT: Where life goes on, unaffected by high tides or ravaged by weather or quakes, travel will in all likelihood be similar to today, to seek work or to visit relatives or whatever.
(NancyL) ZT: There will be LESS travel, during hard times, for entertainment, as the airline industry has already noted.
(NancyL) ZT: Thus, until the week going into the shift, when ALL controls are likely to be lifted due to distraction by those assigned to enforce the restrictions, any number of controls may be imposed, and suddenly, based on Earth changes.
(NancyL) ZT: This is one reason to be in your chosen safe location EARLY, and if not possible, to have valid excuses to BE there should you need the escuse.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter.
(NancyL) In other words, it depends ...
(QueenVee) follow-up questions?
(TheWorldsMuse) What physical/mental changes will happen to mankind in the longrun of the aftertimes?
(Cybervvizz) For Queue next session- I would confront You with a similar story of the Shift on http://digilander.libero.it/aliendream/wave.html (created: 13/08/2001). Are Zetans not focused to much to the 3th density results, do they not neglect the force of Thought or Fear projection with their message when it's time right NOW to harmonize with 4th density ?
(Tizza) need we mention the refuge problem in Aust. which has been handled poorly and is getting WAY out of control now
(Obany) Cybervvizz: that is not a follow up uqestion
(NancyL) WorldsMuse, the Earth will not be different than today, and mankind (humans) no different.
(Secridrose) are any new gov bunkers under construction?
(Cybervvizz) a queue request
(CMell) yes Tyzza
(Shenamea) will cars be a secure wasy to travel before, and after the shift?
(NancyL) Cyber, this is ZetaTalk, not WaveTalk, etc.
(QueenVee) Shenamea: there will be no fuel to run them on after the shift
(NancyL) In other words, so says YOU, who has no prediction accuracy track record.
(NancyL) Tizza, they are just caging them, right?
(Shenamea) then we need to rely on bikes or foot to travel?
(NancyL) The would-be immigrants are going on hunger strikes, etc, right?
(Tizza) yes but they r getting really restless now.... have burnt down most of the detention centres now
(NancyL) Tring to draw attention to themselves.
(QueenVee) ready for next question, Nancy?
(Obany) Shenamea: yes, no cars or so ... storing gasoline can be dangerous also (explosive)
(NancyL) Secridrose, not that I know of, but someone told me on the news was an 'undisclosed" Kentucky/Ohio/Indiana military exercise.
(NancyL) I wondered about a practice thingie getting the elite to Kokomo ...
(QueenVee) NEXT QUESTION: A mysterious hole recently appeared in a Minnesota lake, which has the experts stumped (see http://rense.com/general33/hole.htm). Is this phenomenon related to earthchanges caused by the approach of PlanetX, and if so, how?
(NancyL) Shenamea, depends. Cars on the road can be stopped and checked, blocked, etc.
(NancyL) Hole as in dropping bottom? I'll presume that.
(QueenVee) Nancy: no, not hole as in dropping bottom
(QueenVee) hole as in the middle of the ice, occuring nowhere else, as though there is some kind of heat source there
(QueenVee) in the middle of thick ice
(NancyL) ZT: As we have stated, the East Coast of the US is being pulled DOWN, the Atlantic bottom stretched, and the west coast of the UK islands and Europe likewise being pulled down.
(NancyL) ZT: Recent quakes in Alaska and around the Pacific Rim indicate increased pressure along the subduction zones, too.
(NancyL) ZT: The Earth changes we have predicted for the shift are already in evidence, by these early signs of stress.
(NancyL) ZT: Do pattern analysis on the trail derailments, in Maryland, in Florida, Texas, and a dropping lake bottom in Minnesota.
(NancyL) ZT: Sinkholds in the UK, a trail derailment in Spain, all showing that STRETCHING of the Earth can cause as many problems as compression and slip-slide plate movement.
(NancyL) ZT: Indeed, when stretching occurs, rock stata normally overlayers and FIRM is pulled apart revealing weak points, which can drop, or move laterally to adjust pressure.
(NancyL) ZT: Look for more of this, in the coming weeks and months, to include as we have predicted imploding cities in these areas when the support strata under the buildings shifts.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter.
(Lebrasse) Nancy, re the imploding cities, how many blocks are we talking about roughly 1,10,100 ?
(Tizza) been thru the whole "stiching the lips together" now they just torch everything (following up from last Q)
(CMell) Lebrasse I don't think it's like that she meant :)
(NancyL) Lebrasse, as has been stated, the Zetas CANNOT be precise as to what city, what date, etc. by the rules they must abide by.
(NancyL) Scallion can do this, ZetaTalk cannot.
(TerrorDactyl) if the earths spin will stop then why won't we feel the huge deceleration?
(Lebrasse) ok
(CMell) because it will be slowly stopping
(NancyL) So, given that, it depends! If a main street in NYC drops, pulling down the gas lines and plumbing in a number of buildings, it only TAKES a block to start fires that explode all over the area, UP into buildings.
(CMell) like if you let go of the accelerator and don't touch the brakes
(NancyL) I turned off the gas in my houses here couple years ago already, at the street, as I don't want this type of thing coming INTO my house.
(QueenVee) NEXT QUESTION:
(NancyL) Tizza, in other words, suicide bombers have become suicide torches in protest. Lovely. And NOT on the news in chirpy US where everything is so oh OK (gag).
(QueenVee) At one point ZT said that there were no hybrids residing on earth, but later said that they are already here, but residing in 4th density. Are ALL of the hybrids on earth now in 4th density, and why? And at what point will they make the shift to 3rd density? Will this not be a very difficult adjustment for them?
(NancyL) Terror, when you fly on a Concord, you feel the acceleration only briefly, when YOU are going that fast, you feel nothing.
(NancyL) Likewise with a slowdown.
(TerrorDactyl) when you hit the brakes in a car you feel it, even if the air and seat etc decelerate at the same rate, so will we feel 'some' deceleration?
(NancyL) ZT: Our hybrids are living in many places within your solar system, close at hand, as well as elsewhere nearby in other star systems.
(NancyL) ZT: They are souls who have graduated to 4th Density spiritual existence, and as such as allowed to live in 4th Density physical existence, a preferred mode over the heaviness of 3rd Density physical existence.
(NancyL) ZT: We are allowed to move freely on and off the planet, no longer restricted by our agreement the old MJ12, now defunct, to report to them when such movement on or off the face of the Earth occurred.
(NancyL) ZT: As 4th Density can co-exist with 3rd Density, there is no issue whatsoever!
(NancyL) ZT: Clearly, as our hybrids as well as ourselves expect to be in 4th Density on the future Earth, we do not want our bodies to become accustomed to a lesser gravity.
(NancyL) ZT: And as NO part of the Earth is in 4th Density at present, we are primarily in residence OUTSIDE of the solar system, in another nearby star system, where a commensurate planet in 4th Density is available to us.
(NancyL) ZT: Relocating to Earth is a simple matter, involving 1. setting up residences which have already been constructed and can be relocated, intacte, and quickly so.
(NancyL) ZT: 2. Selecting a spot on Earth which is previously uninhabited, such as the newly warming Antartica, or new land emerging from the seas,
(NancyL) ZT: 3. Establishing a gravity field UNDER the residences or city, such that we do not lose our adaptation while resident on Earth.
(NancyL) ZT: Since travel is quick, most will remain off the surface of Earth until closer to the physical transformation to 4th Density.
(NancyL) ZT: But as some ambassadors will be perpetually busy interacting with humans, some will assume their new residences shortly after the shift, within days, and remain.
(NancyL) End ZT on this matter.
(QueenVee) okay, i'm confused. hybrids will NOT be living in 3rd density with humans after the shift? they will be co-existing with them here, but in 4th density? or going in and out... or...?
(NancyL) Queen, they can go in and out. Let me have the Z's address the co-existing with humans ...
(CMell) good question QV
(Endeavour3d) as I understand it, animals live in 2nd density, however we interact with them, like Cats and Dogs
(IdolHarobed) TerrorDactyl: Earth's speed is about 1000mph at the equator. Slowing down to a complete halt in a few days will not cause any noticeable deceleration.
(NancyL) ZT to Queen: Those humans who come to live WITH hybrid communities, to the extent that they are fully integrated and not having daily tentacles out into the human society around them, will be living in 4th Density with the hybrids and ourselfs and our breathern in the STO orientation.
(NancyL) ZT: They would not be invited to LIVE with us, or transported, unless firmly in the STO orientation, so this is appropriate, an early graduation of sorts.
(NancyL) ZT: If these humans are daily interacting with the neighborhood, such that density switching is not convenient, then we expect that the hybrids or ourselves or our breathern assisting and living with these humans would share the heavy life in 3rd Density, a minor sacrifice to assisting the Transformation, in our view.
(NancyL) End ZT to Queen.
(QueenVee) wow, that really opens a can of worms. some humans will not have to wait until the whole planet shifts over, but can go into 4th density sooner.... that seems to contradict what has been said previously...
(DonMB) Lesser gravity in third density?
(MikeO) So, man's understanding of astronomy is severely limited by our incorrect assumption that all physical matter is in 3rd density?
(Cybervviz) yes, and why this fear projection if You KNOWN fear blocks humans to raise to 4th density ? Do You wish to have the planet for Your own in 4th density ?
(NancyL) Queen, if you read Harvest in Transformation, they state than individual harvests occur when the parties are READY, not at the scheduled times.
(CMell) no QV as those will be very few
(IdolHarobed) NancyL: I thought Earth will move to 4th density somo 100 years after PS.
(NancyL) Genghis Khan for instance, went to the STS early!
(GWilra) QV: that was what my question about what was the mechanism of the Transformation was alluding to.
(NancyL) MikeO, but any other density is NOT interacting, so does not count.
(Spenky) was there a harvest around the time of Christ?
(JFull) Would it be fair to say most people will not notice any 4th density folks as we are tryng rebuild and surive?
(Cybervviz) wish would you say...
(NancyL) words, it is not evident!
(NancyL) Cyber we're not going to make 4th Density, 89% STO, so cool it.
(Cybervviz) some will do !
(NancyL) Idol, yes as a WHOLE, but there is 4th Density possible ON the Earth now!
(NancyL) Spendy, no.
(TerrorDactyl) why is it 89 per cent?
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(CMell) 1300 years earlier
(IdolHarobed) NancyL: Ok. I got it.
(NancyL) Jesus was already IN higher densities, as a spirit, just came down like the Peace Corps to help us.
(CMell) err 1600
(TheWorldsMuse) This is a pretty basic question, but what is the different between 3rd Density and 4th Denisty and what does it take to make the shift?
(Spenky) right, but did he show up because there was a buildup of mature entities or in the process of deciding?
(NancyL) OK, is the hour and I must break to get ready for the next chat.
(NancyL) Worlds, this is in the Density section of ZT, please ready!
(NancyL) Bye all!
(BrianC) Nancy: Are the Zetas going to give there predictions for 2003? And can they say if Waterloo Ontario is going to be a safe place please, thanks you/
(Obany) TheWorldsMuse: check the Density section of ZT
(Domicile) Thanks Nancy
(NancyL) Brian, at the next chat, yes!
Session Close: Sat Jan 04 15:38:40 2003