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Re: 12th Planet - any photos ?


Article: <5htq4o$mn8@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>
From: saquo@ix.netcom.com(Nancy)
Subject: Re: 12th Planet - any photos ?
Date: 2 Apr 1997 14:23:20 GMT

In article <5hh9qm$3tt$4@news.fas.harvard.edu> Trajan McGill
>> Your laws of gravity state that the attracted body moves
>> toward the attractor DIRECTLY, with a reverse square
>> degree of force. ... You laws of motion state that motion is
>> in a straight line UNLESS there is a perturbing force. ...
>> Where does the sideways motion come from? ... the comet
>> LOSES ITS CURVE as it is exiting your Solar System!
>> The trend it NOT for the curve to be retained, as it is rapidly
>> lost, quite outside of a one-to-one relationship with the speed
>> of motion lost too.
>
> Now gravity from the sun pulls in a straight line on the comet,
> but as you'll notice, the comet already has inertia in a line
> which is not directly opposite the line of gravitational attraction.
> So the comet retains some of its "sideways" inertia, and is curved
> around by gravitational attraction. ... The amount of curve gets
> smaller and smaller as the comet gets further from the sun.
> mcgill@fas.harvard.edu (Trajan McGill)

(Begin ZetaTalk[TM])
You are describing the reason for a curve as an object moves PAST another it is attracted to. The object bends toward the attractor, and depending upon the degree of attraction and speed of the object, either a permanent orbit or what you term a gravity boost ensue. But just as your probes move in straight lines when NOT passing a gravitational giant, a straight line you choose to call a hyperbolic orbit, just so exiting comets in what you term a long period ellipse likewise are moving in an essentially straight line. The flaw in your argument is that YOU ARE GIVING THE FORCE OF GRAVITY THE SAME STRENGTH NEAR AND FAR!

Do your probes experience the came degree of curve when away from a planet they are passing as when passing? They do NOT. Likewise, when the comet has LOST its curve as it is slowing down during its exit, this is a clue that it will not REGAIN this curve as the distance increases. Look at the rate of loss! Project THIS out into space and see where it gets you! It gets you a comet that completely comes to a stop, just barely further along in the curve as when you last saw it!
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